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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #30 dnia: Kwiecień 19, 2005, 01:13:11 am »
Sure. Statistics is a powerfull and useful tool (how could I think any different, as a mathematician), but we should never underestimate the meaing and importance of an indiviual being.

Psychology of the masses is an unique and crazy game, where statistics mixes with absurd; as when the large mass, center-weighted around some precise point-of-view, suddenly starts to obey one individual... Take Hitler for instance. That's an example of an individual able to generate national obedience without much terror (unlike Stalin).  All he needed was some good slogan and a few crumbles from the table of prosperity.

I'm no expert of sociology. All I tried to prove, is that everyone of us somewhat unique ( hihi, I know what You'll say:  most of us is unique in quite similar ways... ) . Makes no point to quarell over that.

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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #31 dnia: Kwiecień 23, 2005, 10:36:08 pm »
The Masses are one of the most interesting objects.
For this I would say you should look "Der Musterschüler" , basing on a novel by Stephen King.

In the End, Kurt Lussander, formally KZ-Aufseher is dead, you see the boy which he had made evil.

And then come the song "Das ist Berlin"
by Marlene Dietrich.
Never be so scared by my own history.

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« Odpowiedź #32 dnia: Maj 23, 2005, 07:30:05 am »
Has anyone ever heard of the "Collective Superunconscious" theory?

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« Odpowiedź #33 dnia: Maj 24, 2005, 02:35:49 am »
Not really. Tell us about it then !

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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #34 dnia: Maj 25, 2005, 06:18:08 pm »
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Has anyone ever heard of the "Collective Superunconscious" theory?


Please, tell it.
Do you mean, the one which Heine has got in one of his novels?

Listen up:
There are some birds on the east coast of the USA, which had learned to open milk bottles and drunk them.
After a while, all milk bottles had been drunken out.
The knowledge, how to drink milk bottles raised up farther more than the population did.
Something in that way?

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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #35 dnia: Maj 26, 2005, 03:25:07 pm »
I guess that collective consciousness is not a case with birds but something connected with the intelligence of highly developed beings like humans, human rase as a whole. A kind of network that connects minds.
It may be Internet in some way if the other is excluded.

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« Odpowiedź #36 dnia: Maj 27, 2005, 12:29:06 am »
Well, I'd dare to state profoundly, that when one human learns to open milk bottles, others shall rapidly know it also, because of the internet... Praise the Web ::)
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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #37 dnia: Maj 30, 2005, 12:59:27 pm »
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Praise the Web ::)

Connecting People  :)

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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #38 dnia: Maj 30, 2005, 07:00:41 pm »
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Has anyone ever heard of the "Collective Superunconscious" theory?


It is called The Singularity.

The idea started here:
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html
We exist. All else is Philosophy.

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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #39 dnia: Maj 30, 2005, 07:48:22 pm »
"We are not Rational creatures, we are Rationalizing creatures."

It is not a rational, logical, and intelligent mind that distinguishes man. It is our insanity. Insanity is our Muse and our creative genius. It is our insanity that allows us to dream and then create that which did not previously exist.
We can build a Thinking machine and endow it with logic and artificial intelligence, but unless we can drive it insane it will never dream.
We exist. All else is Philosophy.

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« Odpowiedź #40 dnia: Maj 31, 2005, 02:52:34 am »
Hmm... nicely said ::)

But that won't stop us! We'll kick the machines into pure insanity by, let's see... by making them watch 'The Simpsons' mixed with weather forecasts for Zimbabwe for 150 yrs straight... Noone can take that ::)
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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #41 dnia: Maj 31, 2005, 06:33:51 am »
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Hmm... nicely said ::)

But that won't stop us! We'll kick the machines into pure insanity by, let's see... by making them watch 'The Simpsons' mixed with weather forecasts for Zimbabwe for 150 yrs straight... Noone can take that ::)


I have a better idea, and it will work much faster.
Just make it read Poly-Solipsism six times!! ;o)
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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #42 dnia: Czerwiec 09, 2005, 03:45:20 pm »
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Just make it read Poly-Solipsism six times!! ;o)

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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #43 dnia: Czerwiec 20, 2005, 12:28:35 pm »
CCKEISER said we can make thinking machines.
Unfortunately we can`t. Do you remember CYBERIAD where Trurl is a creator of the most stupid thinking machines, humans resemble him. Nobody will think, I mean machines, better than we do.
Sorry, that I tear off the quotations from the context.

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Re: superconciousness
« Odpowiedź #44 dnia: Grudzień 08, 2005, 01:11:11 am »
Why dont you make them read the point blank books (awful). that would do it