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Forum in English / Re: Lem has died.
« dnia: Kwiecień 01, 2006, 09:31:46 pm »
I would like to propose that at 12:00 on April 4th we all raise a glass and salute the passing of one of the greatest writers of the twentieth century, and drink a toast to celebrate his life.
We may not be able to be there in person, but no matter where we are in the world, we can all be there together in spirit.

To Lem!

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Forum in English / Re: Lem has died.
« dnia: Marzec 31, 2006, 11:38:55 pm »
The Dash

I read of a man who stood to speak
at the funeral of a friend.
He referred to the dates on her tombstone
from the beginning...to the end.
-
He noted that first came the date of her birth
and spoke of the following date with tears,
but he said what mattered most of all
was the dash between those years.
-
For that dash represents all the time
that she spent alive on earth...
and now only those who loved her
know what that little line is worth.
-
For it matters not, how much we own;
the cars....the house...the cash.
What matters is how we live and love
and how we spend our dash.
-
So think about this long and hard...
are there things you'd like to change?
For you never know how much time is left.
(You could be at "dash midrange.")
-
If we could just slow down enough
to consider what's true and real,
and always try to understand
the way other people feel.
-
And be less quick to anger,
and show appreciation more
and love the people in our lives
like we've never loved before.
-
If we treat each other with respect,
and more often wear a smile...
remembering that this special dash
might only last a little while.
-
So, when your eulogy's being read
with your life's actions to rehash...
would you be proud of the things they
say about how you spend your dash?
-
Linda Ellis


http://www.lindaslyrics.com/

Dear Mr Lem
Well done sir. Well done indeed.
I can only hope to  fill my dash as well as you have.
I am only sorry I did not find you sooner and that I never had the opportunity to know you personally. My dash will be poorer for it.

I will see you in Solaris.


C.C.Keiser

Pennsylvania, USA

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Forum in English / Re: possible futures
« dnia: Grudzień 25, 2005, 03:16:18 am »
Cytuj
...when the Ukrainian agriculture and  industry are completely destroyed and sold out?
  I`m a citizen of banana republic which bananas nobody is going to buy through radioactivity.THE ONLY THING REMAINED IT IS YUZHMASH which produces ENGINES FOR RUSSIAN SPACE SHIPS>
  


Dear wetal

If you cannot sell the bananas, sell the dirt.

Chornobyl' is a big part of history, and I bet there are millions across the globe who would love to own a little piece of that history. I for one would love to have a small vial of radioactive Ukrainian dirt from Chornobyl. All you need is a picture of the plant on a letter of authentication ( maybe with the coordinates where the sample was taken), and a few grams of dirt taken from as close to Chornobyl' as you can get. Seal the dirt in vials and sell them on e-bay.
It would be nice if the samples were actually radioactive though, even if just mildly radioactive, so you may have to get pretty close.

It may even be interesting to sell larger quantities of Chornobyl' soil just for the curious to plant things in to see what comes up! The United States is filled with curious people!

Yeah, I know Terminus, I left the door wide open with that last statement!  :D

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Forum in English / Re: possible futures
« dnia: Grudzień 25, 2005, 01:44:10 am »
Cytuj
Apart from reading our beloved Chuckie's messing with-the-head statements ::) I'd like to write something concerning this thread's title.

So: Recently, Stanislaw Lem gave an interview for our local polish weekly "Przeglad" ("Survey"), where he outlined his expectations for humanity. And basically he said that he expects us to head towards nuclear conflict sooner or later. He gave a brief example of Teheran arming against Israel by buing a mid- and short- range ballistic missiles from Russians, and said that the overall situation of the world, which is kinda poor, is mostly the consequence of American President's doing.
As for Bush, Lem said, that along with all Bush'es characteristic comes one major feature: the guy is simply stupid. And "even is some Arab commando knocked Bush out", there's no hope for succesor, for Dick Cheney is not really wiser ::) That is why the political situation of the world is quite unstable.

All the above are just quotations (not word-by-word translated, for I write what I remember...)

That's it for me. Merry Xmas.


Yeah, and 50% of the USA agree with Lem.

"Stop the planet! I want to get off!"

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Forum in English / Re: possible futures
« dnia: Grudzień 23, 2005, 08:24:14 am »
Cytuj


I take all beliefs into account and take the points of this which I believe to be true. This mean I have a wide range of beliefs


Greetings def

Welcome to the forum.


Sorry I have not replied sooner, I really didn't want to leave your post just hanging here, but I had other matters to attend to.

Yes, I too take everything into account and then arrange them according to my own beliefs. I believe just about everyone does pretty much the same.

I actually wrote you a much longer reply, but I am feeling guilty enough about taking this possible futures thread off topic, I decided against posting it.
You are welcome to e-mail me if you wish.

As for possible futures, I am wondering if we will ever travel to another star system?
The huge expenditure required to do so is so prohibiting, I don't think it will ever be attempted.

I cannot imagine any compelling reason to do so.

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Forum in English / Re: possible futures
« dnia: Grudzień 19, 2005, 05:26:38 am »
Cytuj
...I want to stress the mere fact that where the knowledge ends religions and beliefs appear.This strikes me deeply `cause in Ukraine there exist Catholic ,Orthodox and Satanistic churches and all possible sects.



From my perspective all beliefs are simply information, and I include the belief in science here as well. Why should we fear information? The more diversity there is, the more choices we have.
In my opinion most of the problems in our world have come from the attempts to eradicate information and limit our choices.
Because we disagree with the information offered by another philosophy we attempt to discredit it, limit its exposure, or eradicated it from existence.

All Information is Knowledge. Even if it is something we do not agree with.
As long as we are free to choose what we wish to believe, why should we be afraid of what others believe?


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Forum in English / Re: superconciousness
« dnia: Grudzień 15, 2005, 09:55:04 pm »
Text Deleted.  :)




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Forum in English / Re: "There are no answers. There are only Cho
« dnia: Wrzesień 26, 2005, 04:06:47 am »
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This is the real battle occurring on planet Earth. The winners and
losers of this battle are what truly determine the "evolution" of
societies and the world. Now, and in the past, most of what is being
sold is trash, as it usually denies and oppresses that which is
capable of believing and attaching meaning - you and your mind. Your
mind and everyone else's minds are the true source of any quality of
life that will ever exist. Solely and completely. Recognition,
education into the functions, and empowerment of minds results in
success, decency, morality, strength, sanity and greatness. Denial and
suppression of these things results in failure, perversions,
immorality, weakness, insanity and mediocrity. Materialism as a belief
system has the effect of denying these things.

Excerpt from:

Reality, Belief and The Mind
by Gene Zimmer

©Gene Zimmer 1999 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED






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Forum in English / Re: "There are no answers. There are only Cho
« dnia: Wrzesień 26, 2005, 04:05:36 am »
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Modern materialism has exaggerated the importance and power of the
external universe over the inner universe of Man's mind. Behaviorism
talks ad naseam about the effect of the environment on people. The
environment (external reality) is placed in a superior position above
the individual person (mind). People involve themselves in and dissect
the physical universe in a futile attempt to gain "understanding".
They think the answers lie outside themselves. Again, all meaning,
purpose and value for anything, is determined by your mind and for
you, by your mind alone. You are the most truth you will ever know
about anything as you are the ONLY source of truth for everything you
experience. In the end, whatever you end up believing "in" or "about"
is fundamentally an action of your own mind to attach meaning and
significance to something. It's an action of an individual mind.

You are the complete source of meaning for you. You might explain, "I
believe this because it's so true, and it makes me feel good, and
blah-blah-blah...", and you may attribute your choice to all manner of
reasoning about ideas, external events and situations, but in the end
YOU SIMPLY DECIDE TO BELIEVE and EXPERIENCE MEANING solely by your own
mental actions. We all tend to take our cues from external events, and
our beliefs often follow reactions to events, but this isn't
necessary. The function of believing and developing conviction could
be separate from one's experiences of external reality, and if you
suddenly found yourself in some other reality, on some other world,
somewhere else, you would simply begin responding to the external
events there, and develop new beliefs accordingly. This is as true for
science as it is for religion. It is true for everything. Ultimately,
nothing is true unless you believe it to be so. And for you, it then
is. But you are the source of the meaning - the source is not anything
you conceive yourself to experience "out there", whether an observable
"thing" or an "idea".

The purpose of pointing this out is not to make you feel as if all is
useless and meaningless, although this will be the result as long as
you look for meaning outside yourself and fail to acknowledge your own
direct participation in the creation of belief, conviction and meaning
for your own personal experience. It's up to you to choose grand
beliefs, wondrous convictions, noble purposes and lofty ideals. Then
recognizing yourself as the final source of all your meaning, belief
and conviction will not degrade into apathy and lack of meaning. Most
people search "out there" to find something to "believe in", and to
give their life meaning, but in the end, it is your own action of
establishing belief which underlies any choice or decision. Again,what you accept to believe need not correspond to any pre-packaged
theory, concept or philosophy, whether scientific, philosophical or
religious, but we all tend to take for granted that the existing
options presented to us are the only possibilities available. But this
is difficult to do in a world where Man's inner world and all it does
is so casually and persistently denied. It is also difficult to do
when so many external forces attempt to sell you on their own specific
set of opinions and beliefs. Everybody is trying to get you to accept
their patterns of belief and systems of meaning.

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Forum in English / Re: "There are no answers. There are only Cho
« dnia: Wrzesień 26, 2005, 04:03:53 am »
"It's up to you to choose grand beliefs, wondrous convictions, noble
purposes and lofty ideals. Then recognizing yourself as the final
source of all your meaning, belief and conviction will not degrade
into apathy and lack of meaning."
Gene Zimmer

Excerpt from: Reality, Belief and The Mind by Gene Zimmer

Universes and Reality

The world "out there", external reality, is a mutually shared universe
of common experience. It is the lowest common denominator of all our
experience. It is the mediocre minimum which we all take for granted
and it supplies us with a common field of action. That is all it is.
Your realm of personal "mind" is another sort of universe. You
experience it every second of every day. From here comes any and all
meaning about anything in the "outer" universe. The functions of
attention, concentration, imagination, responsibility, belief,
conviction, intention, decision, purpose, reason, intellect, and more
solely reside within your own personal "mind". These are qualities of
any mind. The "amount" of each and control we each have over these
various functions varies from person to person, and even within
ourselves from day to day. But they are there in each of us in some
form and to some degree. You may be influenced by the external world
of common experience, but this inner universe exists, is very real,
and is ultimately of more value than anything "out there". Why?
Because what happens "out there" depends completely on what you do (or
what "happens") with your own mind. In fact, your own inner universe
is the only thing capable anywhere of choosing and deciding value. The
world of external events takes shape in exact accordance with the sum
total of all Man's inner beliefs, conviction, ideas, meanings,
thoughts, desires, etc.

It is vital to get some grasp of this because Man's inner world , or
universe of thought, is very much ignored by all current popular
belief systems. This inner universe is the important universe and it
has been systematically ignored and suppressed by current
materialistic notions. The popularization and use of modern
psychological and psychiatric theories are the worse example of this.
When Man's inner universe is destroyed systematically through
institutionalized belief systems, Man can only finally become a pale
shadow of raw matter and energy - which in itself is dead, meaningless
and devoid of all life.

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Forum in English / Re: "There are no answers. There are only Cho
« dnia: Lipiec 17, 2005, 05:02:17 am »
It's your Choice.  :)

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Forum in English / Re: "There are no answers. There are only Cho
« dnia: Lipiec 09, 2005, 05:36:44 am »
"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax
Of cabbages and kings
And why the sea is boiling hot
And whether pigs have wings.


Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (Lewis Carroll). 1832-1898.

And this boys and girls is probably as good a description of philosophy as you can find anywhere!
The dates 1832 and 1898 are the years Charles Lutwidge Dodgson was born and died. It is the little dash ( - ) between them that is important. That little dash represents the years he lived.

Philosophies are beliefs, and Beliefs are philosophies. Religion is a belief and therefore is a philosophy. All our Science has it's roots in 600 BC Ionian Greek Philosophy. Science is a way of looking at our universe and our own existence, and trying to make sense of it all. Science is just as much a belief as any religion, and is therefore also a philosophy.

We exist. All else is philosophy!

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Forum in English / Re: "There are no answers. There are only Cho
« dnia: Lipiec 08, 2005, 05:30:23 am »
Lets return to Solaris; at least to the movie I saw with George Cloney. It is what brought me here in the first place.
If you missed the whispered words "There are no answers. There are only choices." uttered by the apparition of his friend, you missed the key to what the object Solaris was. At least from my point of view, with the concept of Poly-Solipsism firmly imbedded, and pretty much front and center in my mind, those whispered words explained how the object Solaris worked. It worked the very same way The Singularity works. Each mind generates its own illusions of Reality to exist in.

"We must project in order to perceive."
What thoughts, wishes, and memories were projected into Solaris were returned and perceived by the senses as being real. But they really were not real. It was only by looking at the subatomic structure the lie was revealed.

What we project into The Singularity is returned as our Reality. Our senses perceive it to be real. But if we look at the subatomic structure and venture down the rabbit hole below the Planck threshold into the quantum universe, it turns out our physical reality is made from no-thing at all. There are no solids in our solids, and no particles in our particles. It's all just Information pretending to be real.
The photon, along with the gluon and the W/Z particle are gauge bosons with no mass at all, yet they change our whole Universe. There sole function is to transfer Information from one place to another. The gauge boson is the information it carries and by transferring its information it changes one thing into another thing.
Everything we perceive as real is nothing more than the transfer of Information.

I am still convinced; until I hear Lem say otherwise, that Solaris was a dramatized version of Poly-Solipsism!
You can disagree all you want, but only Lem can speak for Lem.

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Forum in English / Re:  t
« dnia: Lipiec 07, 2005, 06:33:21 am »
Cytuj
I'm going to write for poly-solipsism, great work cckeiser!
The fun part about this is that you can believe that poly-solipsism is not true but poly-solipsism accepts that as truth too.
It was mentioned that poly-solipsism is similar to buddhism, well it is also similar to christianity. It says on your poly-solipsism page that if you believe in heaven you will finally get there. That is exactly how it is in christianity (maybe even in other "old testament religions"), you can only enter heaven if you want to get there. Even if you were a serious sinner, if you finally regret that and state that you want to be in heaven you will enter it.
Poly-solipsism gives many answers and is a part of many concepts and religious trends. That's why I find it intriguing.


Yes!! Thank you awariat, thank you for your post. It is evident you comprehend the fundamentals of Poly-Solipsism.
We each believe the truth we perceive, but we only perceive the truth we believe. Our continued error is to presume the Reality and the Truth we each perceive is the one and only Truth and the one and only Reality. We each create our own Reality, and choose our own truth, and any one of them is just a valid as any other.
The fact that we constantly disagree with each other just proves we are each existing in a different universe and perceiving a different truth and a different Reality.

Poly-Solipsism is similar to Buddhism, but Buddhism does not recognize the ultimate necessity of individuality in the continued evolution of The Singularity. It does not recognize the separation by perspective of the individual mind. It is that separation by "state of mind" that gives The Singularity its infinite degrees of freedom. If all minds were one mind, there would be no separation, and there really would be only the one mind of pure Solipsism. There would be no "we," there would only be "I." Buddhism maintains there is only Buddha, and all minds are Buddha.
I was raised Christian, and that is what the middle c stands for in my name, but I morphed into Atheism by the time I graduated highschool. We create our own Gods and we create our own Heaven and our own Hell, and then our minds judge ourselves. It is not our victories, but our failures we take to our graves.

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Forum in English / Re: "There are no answers. There are only Cho
« dnia: Czerwiec 27, 2005, 02:11:52 am »
Cytuj
Rich theory and what about practice? Theory`s nothing without practical field.
 Like V.Lenin said ART SERVES PEOPLE.So our task is to work for needs of society and of course our own.

Practical Quantum Magick!

We do practice it all the time. The point is, we are not aware that we do so. Think of everything you know and believe. Where did this information come from. Now think of everything everyone else believes. How many of those beliefs of others do you share? Where did their information come from?
There are so many different points of view on every subject it is nearly impossible to count yet alone list them all. Everyone holds a different truth to be true. Everyone perceives a different Reality.
"We must project in order to perceive."
The wave function of quantum theory behaves as a nebulous field of potential information. For any of us to extract information from that wave function we must interact by observing. That interaction causes an exchange of information between the wave function and the Observer. The Observer and the wave function become entangled. The wave function will then surrender the information that is anticipated by the observer. We project into the wave function our own expectations of what is true and what is Reality and the wave function behaves accordingly by reflecting those expectations back to us. We chose our own Reality.

What practical purpose does this have for society? It tells us why we all believe so many different  and sometimes contradictory things. It tells us why everyone believes the other guy is insane for perceiving a truth so different than the one we know to be true.
Since time before memory we have been killing each other over differences in ideology. We fear those who do not believe the same as we do, and attempt to exterminate anyone who challenges our perceptions of truth. We did, and continue to do so, because we did not understand how our Reality functions and why others perceive differently.
What would happen to the tensions in the world if everyone understood we each create our own reality by choosing what we wish to be true?
For all intent and purposes Reality is an observer generated illusion, and all truths have the very same potential to be manifested into Reality for any individual observer.
We error because we each believe the Reality and the truth we personally perceive and believe is the one and only Reality, and the one and only Truth.
Poly-Solipsism and the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Theory both tell us there are infinite truths and infinite Realities, and none is any more or less true than any other. We each perceive our own, and our Shared Reality is generated because we are mostly selecting pretty much the same information from the wave function to extract, and therefore we create a similar Reality.
We are all pretty much perceiving a similar reality, but that reality isn't "out there," it's in our own minds. We are not really Observers separated from the Universe by some invisible magick glass. We are all imbedded in the reality we each perceive and continually interact with our own perceptions of the Grand Illusion.
I have read our brains continually process 400 billion bps of information, but we are only consciously aware of a few thousands at any one time. It takes a lot of processing to turn an illusion into Reality!

Cytuj
"There is no reality except the one contained within us. That is why so many people live such an unreal life. They take the images outside them for reality and never allow the world within to assert itself."
Herman Hesse (1877-1962)


You may like to ask Dr Wolf this same question. It would be interesting to compare answers.


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