Ray Bradbury

[Socrates]

Anybody know if Bradbury was counted amongst the few sf writers Lem though highly of?  

Cheers, Socrates

[bio]

Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to this question, but how can't one appreciate the author of "The Martian Chronicles"

[negative_dragon]

I don't know exactly about Bradbury but if you go to the FAQ on lem.pl you'll find that Mr Lem is critical on sci-fi literature in general. That's the only related source on the topic I could find.

www.lem.pl should publish a listing with Mr Lem's ratings for SF writers.

http://www.cyberiad.info/english/faq/faq.htm#sfwa

What might he think about Douglas Adams?

[Terminus]

What might he think about Douglas Adams?

I think Lem's mind is too serious to like D. Adams. Never the less I'm deeply in love with his (Adams') books. They're so happily senseless ;]  

[Socrates]

I've read his Microworlds, but he doesn't mention Bradbury in it.  Anyway, I never heard of Adams.  Anybody read Herbert?

Cheers, Socrates

[negative_dragon]

You definitely should read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. If you like it, read the other books in the right order. They are a trilogy consisting of four books.

In some respect they are similar to the Star diaries. Adams also develops a number of funny situations that develop out of unconventional logical relations. They are definitely worth reading. Make sure you don't hurt yourself or your family if you burst in laughter. If you don't burst in laughter, well, Adams might not be the right author for you. Most like it, some don't.

Try his shorty on pedants to get a feel for his style: http://www.douglasadams.com/dna/pedants.html

[bio]

...  Anybody read Herbert?

Probably everybody who has something in comonn with this very forum
("Dune" at least)

[Terminus]

 Anybody read Herbert?

Cheers, Socrates

Oh sweet God... have I?

(IMHO Dune deserves another forum

[Terminus]

I never heard of Adams.

Cheers, Socrates

Wow, I envy you If I  never heard of Adams I wouldn't have to look for my head after I once laughed it off while reading his books. HE"S BRILLIANT (hilarious, at least Not too serious (gosh, he's not serious at all! Imagine the "Improbablity engine" he is writing about : the idea is based on a fact, that "THe probablity that the given spaceship is placed in a given point of a space is 0 <=> the ship is everywhere at the same time (so the navigators need just to select the desired destination point and the ship is already there (as it was before, hehe))  ;] )

Reading Adams is a big laugh. (And that's all, to be honest, but what so....) :]

cheerZ

[Socrates]

Hey, if it comes so highly recommended, I'll jump to it as soon as I'm done with the current batch of novels I've doomed myself to read.  
If Dune was already read by all here, how about the "Destination Void" serries?  It's also great.

Cheers, socrates

[Ritch]

Lem mention Bradbury by name in an essay from Microworlds. I promise look for the exact page. (Its not very praise about him)

[Socrates]

Please do, i would be much obliged.  I must have missed it myself...
Cheers, Socrates

[Ritch]

Microworlds
Harcourt & Brace, 1984

In the last pages (158 and ss.) of the essay Time travel... of Microworlds, Lem refer to R. Bradbury and J.G. Ballard. While he recognize the skills and artistry of these authors, he is very critic whith their aproach to the genre of s.f.

Lem says that B. limit himself to pointing out the mistakes and the worst of the science an reason (a hopeless pessimism), but fails to explore the outer limits of the rational; the option to a bad knowledge (according to Lem) is more and better knowledge, but Bradbury cancels or dont see this option.

To sum-up, Lem dont says Bradbury is a bad writer (to the contrary), but says he is a SCI-FI flawed author.

I dont know if I did explain me very well, my english is terrible when --trying-- going complex. If I have time I will trascript extracts of the essay, is worthwhile --as all from Lem  .

[Socrates]

Thanks a lot!  I'll go and read it myself today.  Appreciated greatly!  Plus - your english is fine; much better than you think it is.

Cheers, Socrates

[Terminus]

What are those Bradbury's "Martian Chronicles" about? Should I read it?

I'll welcome answers:]