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Tytuł: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Andrzej Wojcik w Styczeń 08, 2005, 01:10:54 am
I want to buy Lem's Star Diaries for my British friend, but on Amazon I've found two books with almost the same title: Star Diaries: Further Reminiscences of Ijon Tichy, and Memoirs of a Space Traveler: Further Reminiscences of Ijon Tichy. They have different number of pages (286 and 152). What is the difference, is it just two translation of Star Diaries? I live in Sweden and cannot check it.
Can somebody explain it to me?
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Terminus w Styczeń 08, 2005, 01:24:00 am
Socrates, answer the man!
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Socrates w Styczeń 11, 2005, 03:31:51 am
Certainly:  
There are two translations, but you only saw one.  The entire Star Diaries book has been split into two parts, one translated by Michael Kandel, and the other by a team whose last names I forget.  What you've seen was simply the two volumes of the same book (with different stories, of course).  The work done by Michael Kandel is superb; the other is less so.
But there does exists another version, done by yours truly, which is unavailable in bookstores for the simple reason that it is technically illegal, not endorsed by Lem (though he apparently did like it somewhat), and will not be published because Faber &Faber is not interested in publishing it.
Cheers, Socrates
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Angelika_Darksky w Styczeń 11, 2005, 12:11:18 pm
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But there does exists another version, done by yours truly, which is unavailable in bookstores for the simple reason that it is technically illegal, not endorsed by Lem (though he apparently did like it somewhat), and will not be published because Faber &Faber is not interested in publishing it.
Cheers, Socrates


Another version? By whom? You? Tell me more, please!
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Terminus w Styczeń 11, 2005, 06:56:27 pm
Haha, isn't that obvious ? Socrates, of course, translated it himself !

Shame on Faber&Faber !

Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Andrzej Wojcik w Styczeń 12, 2005, 11:34:36 am
If it's not available in stores, maybe it's available in some other way?  ;)
I mean the other translation.
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Socrates w Styczeń 13, 2005, 07:19:21 am
1) Send me an email at noveltrans@hotmail.com.
2) Clean up some space in your mail box
3) Send me another email telling me that you have 100kb of space or so
4) Check your email the next week after
5) Read what you've been sent
6) Let me know what you think.  Be as brutal or praiseworthy as you wish.

Cheers, Socrates

Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Terminus w Styczeń 31, 2005, 04:07:35 am
Guess I'll try it shortly :] Just because I'm curious...
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Nicolai w Maj 21, 2011, 05:27:09 pm
From Michael Kandel's 'Translator's Note' in The Star Diaries:
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My translation was done from the 1971 Polish fourth edition. It does not include the Memoirs of Ijon Tichy (to which group The Futurological Congress, The Seabury Press, 1974, belongs), where the action takes place on Earth, nor the Eighteenth Voyage (in which Tichy is responsible—or rather, to blame—for creating the world), nor the Twenty-fourth. The latter can be found in Darko Suvin's Other Worlds, Other Seas, Random House, 1970. There was a Twenty-sixth Voyage too, a cold war satire, which the author later discarded, more for esthetic than political reasons. Also, the last few pages of the Twenty-second Voyage have been omitted.
Does anyone know why the Eighteenth Voyage and the last few pages of the Twenty-second were omitted?

Was the Twenty-sixth Voyage published before Lem discarded it and will it ever see the light of day?
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: l3mol0g w Maj 22, 2011, 11:54:41 pm
Hi, guys.
I'm in a desperate need of the English translation of the 8th Voyage and the 21st Voyage. I've already bought Star Diaries from amazon.co.uk but the book will probably arrive too late, and I really need these two short stories as soon as possible. Would anybody be so kind as to send me scans? I'd be immensely grateful! My e-mail: l3mol0g@gazeta.pl
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Wiadomość wysłana przez: radelka w Maj 02, 2012, 11:23:33 pm
Does anybody know how to contact Socrates?? The email address given here is invalid
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Q w Maj 02, 2012, 11:47:10 pm
Maybe Terminus?
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: radelka w Październik 21, 2012, 04:22:21 pm
I'm begging you all: if anybody knows how to contact either Socrates or Terminus, please let me know.
I'm writing my MA thesis on translating neologisms, and I would like to use example from translation done by Socrates.
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: Q w Październik 22, 2012, 04:11:21 am
I sent e-mail to Terminus in your name.

Cheers.
Tytuł: Re: Star Diaries - two translations?
Wiadomość wysłana przez: radelka w Październik 22, 2012, 08:22:04 pm
Thank you very much :D